Priate bay trial

This report created doubt that the site was living its own philosophy and claims toward a selfless ideal. During the trial, prosecutors carefully shaped their case to get a conviction and hundreds of supporters for the defendants raised their colors outside the Swedish court during the trial.

News continues to unfold about how the four men will complete their sentences, and how that will impact the Pirate Bay. As of this writing, the trial and its outcome has not run the Pirate Bay aground. The site still boasts 3. The museum announced it would add the server to a special display featuring illegal downloading.

Though the prospective owners described intentions to turn the site into a legal paid services site, the Swedish stock exchange de-listed the company on allegations that it was not being truthful with its investors.

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P: I see. I assume it was in some sort of chat room somewhere. So I became involved that way. When did you meet for the first time IRL? We consider the internet to be real. P: This company, I pronounce the abbreviation hike, but maybe you pronounce it differently? S: It was a consulting company that I started with what was then a good friend of mine. The idea was that we were to do IT consulting. S: It ended up being pretty general, but in the beginnig the idea was that we wanted to work with large systems.

I had previously worked a lot with x-ray systems and similar so that was our first idea. P: Now, in the world of IT, the same term can be used to mean different things. What does performance optimization mean to you? Making things work a little faster then they did before. S: Not a lot. S: He was a client with Gottfrid, and I had just met Gottfrid aswell, and he [Oded] had problems with some of his computers. And he wanted help. S: Know him, not really.

S: I met him once when visiting Fredrik in Gothenburg, when Fredrik worked for him. And I ran into him once during a trip in the US. S: This has been clearly stated on the Internet, so that I know. I also watched when they were moved from Gothenburg to Stockholm and such. When the servers where moved there was a GPS tracker on the car so that people could see on a map on the web where the car was.

P: Exactly. To me this means you divide load between different computers, is that correct? S: Yes. S: Yes, but, asking me about stuff like that is really counterproductive. P: We have for several days now talked about this contract, this company contract concerning the founding of the company Random Media. Which is the company you were planing on starting. Have you signed such a contract? P: So if we look at the signatures, on page 32, in the part that details emails.

S: I was asked if I was interested in joining up and building new web services. S: When Oded wanted to fund a company so that we could create services together, I found the idea interesting. So I looked at it and trusted Oded. P: In you opinion, was The Pirate Bay a part of the operation of this company?

S: No, I was under the impression that the advertisement would be handled by this company. P: So lets see, what did you say. Who was supposed to handle the sales of advertisement of what? S: I was under the impression that the company was to handle the money from the ads on The Pirate Bay. S: The idea was to build web services that had the same crew as The Pirate Bay and the same or similar names.

So for example Video Bay was one of our first intended projects. P: So there was no intention to develop the business concept The Pirate Bay? P: The intention to develop The Pirate Bay as a business concept, was that something that became a goal later on? P: What was your intended, i mean practically, in concrete terms, what was your intended role, function in random media. S: Yes, well, the company was never founded. But the idea was that I was to participate in developing things.

What was yours? The purpose was to build our own web pages. S: That was Oded part, what he brought to the company. This was how the conpany was supposed to get the money to build the web pages and pay wages. P: I understand. Did you observe this clause when you signed the contract? S: I did not reflect on that at all. Perhaps the idea was to decide that at a later stage, and Fredrik and Gottfrid where to create a new company for that purpose. So that when you upleaded a.

Have you been part of designing such categories? S: No. And then some people wanted to give suggestions on how to make it better. But that never took off either. S: No, there was a desire to create categories for genres and such, but it never happened.

P: Have Oded at any time requested you opinion on cooperation with streaming sites? S: You need to keep in mind that we have sent many thousands of mails to each other. S: I managed the contact with East Point for Oded, because he had difficulties communicating with them.

So asked me to contact them since I have an old class mate that works for them. S: I sent the invoices from my company instead.

They wanted an invoice from Sweden. P: So all invoices and transactions that this generates and the invoices that are part ot the evidence here are made by you. I believe the contract was between East Point and Oded. P: Ok, was there any contract detailing the dividing of the revenue from the ad sales? P: You have no knowledge of that. Wich one specifically? P: Have you signed any contract or made any deals with any advertiser concerning advertisement on The Pirate Bay?

P: You have not, ok. P: You had such a suggestion. Could you tell us some more of the ideas behind that? S: I thought that the statistics that circulated in newspapers and such was mostly concerned with sale. So I wanted it to reach people some how. The basic idea was to make the statistics public some how. S: Yes well, I thought that it was a way for Pirate Bay to earn at least some money. Have you suggested that The Pirate Bay should have a telephone hotline for support?

S: Yeah, but a lot of people have ideas and feedback. Someone had the idea and told me about it and I thought that it was a good idea. S: I think Oded wanted better communication with Gottfrid and Fredrik and was aware that I knew them. So he was trying to take a more active part in helping them. S: I have no memory of that.

Since Random Media was never created and there never was any money going into or out of the company. S: If you consider it as business, maybe, but I doubt Oded sees it this way. I have been to Israel several times. P: Mhm. Have you together with Oded met companies that considered buying ad space on The Pirate Bay?

S: Because I was there visiting, as a guest of Odeds, and he simply wanted to bring me to these meetings. S: We had other projects together. I was after all his guest. P: Sure. Now I was planning on covering some of these, lets see, email correspondences. The evidence under the tab email. I would like to hear your comments on the meaning of this. Page 5. P: This is an email from Oded to Gottfrid. And it says that Oded is going to transfer money to Gottfrid as soon as possible.

And that Gottfrid can get Peter to buy load balancers. S: I believe he wanted me to buy a load balancer since he had problems with his computers. S: Yes, like I said he had many different computers and a lot of large and resource heavy ad networks and other stuff.

P: Could any of those servers have been an ad server for The Pirate Bay? And you already answered that. S: I believe this was in connection to our plans to build a site that was to be called Video Bay. P: Why where, why would you, why were you participating in a meeting like that then? S: I was one of the programmers for the Video Bay project. And to do that you need to know the details of the layout so you can write the code for it. So Roswall opens up a new line of questioning.

P: Page With copies to among others Gottfrid. It concerned whether or not Oded was happy with the new design. S: I have no idea.

This was something we discussed back and forth and we had asked a guy to make the layout. A Swedish guy I knew. P: Mhm, yes. Page Here Oded writes to you. And if you read the first line and look at the attachments you can see that here Oded has suggestions on changes to the site.

And if we look at Page 44 and 45 it shows among other things that this concerns The Priate Bay. And the circled areas are for once not one by me but instead this is what the image looked like when you got it. S: Because I work with the guy in many other projects, and we thought that he was very good.

So Oded wanted to use him to make changes to The Pirate Bay. P: So you were supposed to relay this material to the intended recipient? You are writing to Oded. Oded earlier wrote to you and said that he wanted look at two BitTorrent sites.

This is detailed by the lower part of the message. Deadline this Friday to decide what genres we should have. P: This indicates that you have actually worked on the categories on TPB? S: Yes, well, me and some other users that thought that the wasnt any kind of categorization system on The Pirate Bay. So I had recieved suggestions and talked to these people and we wanted to make a better suggestion then what was already available.

Again Roswall is fishing for the non exsistant boss. And many other users thought the same thing. P: But the question was, was this an initiative of your own or were you asked to? S: This is how the Internet works for the most part. If you want to change something somewhere, no matter what it is, you suggest changes. And since many others thought the same we decided to put forth a suggestion. S: I wanted to be able to post my own music and label it as Techno so that people could find it.

P: So have I understood you correctly if I say enhance the functionalty? S: You could say that. And many agree with me there. Oded writes an email to you. Copies to Gottfrid among others. In a small project that works well, and that would be a form of search function, but not one I would call a real search function.

No wait, we want to start with page This is a mainly the lower part of the email where Oded sends a message to the list random media. List means several. A pre defined list of recipients? This is a professional at streaming. And to me streaming is live TV over the Internet. Eh live material transmitted over the Internet. P: Simplified. Oded further suggests a cooperation with this person.

You, or we he says actually, will invest in the servers, and this other person will update the content. You will supply a Pirate Bay skin, that is to say the graphical interface. And you will advertise this site and the revenue will be divided or Just below the middle. Its a mail from you to the list. And here you arent so pleased with thi interface. The prosecutor is looking for his next piece of evidence to ask Sunde about.

Fourth paragraph from the top. This is an email from Oded to you. But this particular paragraph talks about search driven advertisesers. What is that? I have no idea what that would be. P: And it goes on to say that this person has approved you.

And Oded says that you will be given contact information so you can talk to their engineers. P: Last paragraph, just above best regards. S: Yes, I think they have had some communication problems all three of them. P: Yes. Oded sends an email to Gottfrid. And here we can see that Gottfrid has previously replied to a mail that Oded sent to him first. P: with you. What countries the ad should be visible in, how often and so on.

Am I understanding this correctly? P: And we can see here thats there alot of brackets, and after that theres text without brackets that Gottfrid thus has written. S: You will have to ask Gottfrid. I have not made any such deals with anyone. S: No, this is the kind of things that Oded has done. So I have not had to care about it at all.

P: Mmm. P: The email on page From dec 27th Why would he send this to you? P: Has it always worked this way? S: He tried that, untill he realized I had the same problem as Fredrik and Gottfrid.

Neither of us do alot of work, and are very, confused, all three of us. Is that correct? S: During a short peroid of time he did that. The emails are from a short period of time aswell. This is from Gottfrid to Oded. Oded is answering a question he sent earlier.

He asked if TiAMO is the dude that made the database. Why would he say that? P: But just to be clear, you do have a certain competence with databases? And this meant I became the middleman in phone conversations and similar untill the cooperation ended.

P: How did you react to the fcat that you could charge more for the ad space? Same thing here, an email from Oded to you. Why, why would he ask you, this is the second time already. With all the layouts on all the projects. S: I have no recollection of any one employing anyone in random media. P: Here we can see that Oded and you have met with a company called Ad Agency. And they will pay USD for this and the following monday they will get a contract.

It must be in regards to all of Odeds sites or something. The judge asks if they should take a break. After a short discussion the decission is made to have a 15 minute recess. What you must remember with ads is you can keep them short, attention-grabbing and earn them desire to find out more.

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P: … computer that belongs to you? S: Not that belonged to me, but that I had access to. P: Did your company, eh Hike, own the the computer? S: That could be correct, my company might have bought a computer that stood there as well. P: Why was that computer in a rack belonging to TPB? P: And what is The Piracy Bureau?

P: Discusses the Internet? Do you discuss any issues in particular concerning the Internet? P: Do you discuss copyright? File Sharing? P: And they are critical of the way copyright is defined today?

P: Whats your position? P: In what way. P: A non-issue?! S: Yes P: Ok. P: When did you become spokesman? P: What qualifies you to be spokesman for The Pirate Bay? P: Are you aware of the web page that The Pirate Bay has? S: Say again? P: Are you aware of the web site that The Pirate Bay has? S: Yes I am. P: Have you read anything on that web site? S: Yes I have, parts of hit.

P: Even before the raid I mean. S: Absolutely. P: Yes, but were aware of this? S: Just as aware as anyone else who have read the same correspondence. P: How did you get to know Fredrik and Gottfrid? P: Have you had contact within the network The Piracy Bureau? Court: Prosecutor, what does IRL mean? HAIQ again. S: Yes, but your pronunciation is funny. P: IT consulting in general, or were you specialized?

P: X-ray systems? At hospitals?